Tricking Discussion - Corscrew Frustration

Moonkicks aren't upside down though, they are either like sideflips or with your chest facing the ground. Trust me they will help a lot with corks. It's going to take forever to learn them the way you're trying right now.

I can do the gainer setup into a sideflip. Is that a moonkick?

Is there a nice high, pronounced hook kick in it as you land?

No?... Define Hook kick... I don't know how to do those either. Haha. I don't know kicks whatsoever. -_- Most of the guys I know that got corks down say it's just a cheat gainer thrown very low(Horizontal) and while spinning...

It isn't technically supposed to be horizontal, you know... A perfect cork generally means going over your shoulder, at about a 45deg. angle. Just about all of the really awesome trickers do corks that way.

Yeah, it usually winds up being at an angle, but they say throw it horizontal and it kind of pops up when you spin.

True, true....

Who defined technically for you? I'd like to beat them with a stick -__- Technically corks are supposed to be completely horizontal

a cork can be on a perfect  ==== line. Hell, Steve Terada's double corks were on the line. Dave Cheatwood's doubles are only a tad more than that. Any less that should be unacceptable (but unfortunately aren't always) Crazy Asian's first boxcutters were way below that line, and too many people have cork rounds below that line. Anything above that line is just for personal preference and swingthrus. But yes, the majority of tricksters we call "good" are at about 45 degrees.

That's not the best way to learn it though, as Rockstar said he has trouble getting his feet underneath him, and learning them on a 45 makes the problem worse. Doing it on a === level makes them more similar to btwists. SO IF YOU CAN BTWIST is makes it easier to learn. I got it on my 4 or 5th shot that way, so easy. At first I tried them on a 45 and it made them ridiculously hard. Since them I've inverted them more, but like I said, not the best way to learn them.

Google: "Tricking Bible" and scroll down to the part where Sessh talks about basic kicks. There's diagrams and stuff too so it should help you.

In more complicated terms, a moonkick is a boxcutter without the twist. So in the same way that a boxcutter is a prereq for a double cork, a moonkick is a prereq for a cork.

You keep saying it would be easier to learn from a btwist, but that's because you learned a bwist first. Everybody learns things at different intervals. If I said learning a triple full on the tramp is a pre req to a double on the ground doesn't mean it's true. -_- I've even known people that learned to Cork before they could cheat gainer. I can basically Cork, and btwists are on a whole other level for me. Most people have an easy time with Corks because they spin the same direction as their foot goes. I'm spinning a whole new direction which is why I'm having so much trouble with it. I can't find my landing because spinning left is awkward and I don't know where I am in the air so I don't know when to put my feet down to land.

And no, I don't do that weird kicky thing. Cause I side-flip. Means I tuck, which doesn't allow for kicking.