Tricking Discussion - Corscrew Frustration

"A tuck doesn't require your knees to touch your chest, because they can come to your shoulders (resulting a much tighter tuck), and because tucking isn't an on/off type of thing. There are different degrees of tuckedness. The hands are completely uninvolved."
You basically just said a complete layout can be considered a tuck. Knees come to your chest, or shoulders. I guess you don't really need your hands for a tuck, true, but what that guy did with his moonkick, is far from tucking. Especially if it should be a proper tuck.

Haha, I didn't say I knew more about chambering than either of you. But time has nothing to do with anything. You can study a Biology text book for years and still not know what Mitosis actually is. That's outside the point though. I know you both LOVE to sound like you know everything about everything, but trying to sound smart to me is like trying to trick with your wrist tied to your ankle.

To take a direct quote from an old friend, "Tricking... Isn't like you might think. It's not about the adrenaline rush, and it's not about being the best of all your friends. It's about learning about yourself. When you trick... Forget about your strength and your old physical abilities. It's all in the head. When your legs hit the ground, it doesn't matter how strong they are. 30% is strength, 20% is hard-earned talent, and 50% is mental capacity. It's only impossible because you've been told it is, and we work to break that wall down little by little." He told me that when I first started, and I live by it everyday. "It's only impossible because you've been told it is."
Your physique has nothing to do with what you can do. You're right, my problem is mental, but so is yours. :P Mentally, you are told btwists are pre req's to corks. Mentally, I believe that corks are easier, because of how I am built and how I've learned to move. A front flip isn't a prerequisite to a back flip, even though most people learn it first. :P

Instead of coming up with a clever little comeback to everything I just said, how about we get back on topic? Because I can assure you, this argument doesn't help you whatsoever, and it's not helping me get my corks down much either. I can promise you that.

I think what ben is saying is true for someone who has experience in martial arts because we are used to rapid changes and such. but for freeruners who have never had to kick or learned how to it may be harder to change in the air from lack of knowlage,  because think about this, remeber how you were when you first started martial arts, it was diffrent, kicking was strange and we had to be corrected countless times, say  we had been a tricker before that though, how many tricks would have been kicked and such. But the mental block is a big part of it as ben has stated, i wish i could jus get rid of mine lol =D

Yeah. :P We learned different ways. While you guys started with MA Tricking using kicks and such, I started with FreeRunning. If I asked you to throw a gainer off a 10ft ledge, would you be able to just run up and throw it? I doubt it. You would be scared. But for me, that's hardly anything. Same with you. You hardly consider it special to leap in the air, spin, kick, flip some other direction, kick again, then somehow land on your feet. That's awkward for me because I've never done anything like it. It's a mental block. O.o Usually when I kick, my momentum stops. So I feel like I kick, I fall on my head. It's happened before. Haha.

Dave: Haha, thanks. :D

Rockster (comment 1):
Who said that a moonkick needs to be perfectly tucked?
I tried tricking with my wrist tied to my ankle once... And it turns out it's all about which ankle you tie it to. o.O
Haha, I didn't read the last paragraph until I finished the "o.O" and I see no point in deleting that stuff.

Ben: I lost track of who you were talking to half way through that post, so I'm not going to pretend I understood it.

Rockster (comment 2): One problem with that, haha, Mr. Anderson here almost has his 2nd Degree Black Belt, and yet his flipping skills are about 100 times as good as his kicking/spinning skills. Paradoxical, I know.

I tried it too... It wasn't easy...

I assumed he was talking to both of us. O.o

Not the point, it takes time. Remind me again of how long he's been doing this? :P I don't even have a year yet. I will learn kicks, but I learned flips first and I'm going to master those before I turn my focus to something else completely.

Ben's been tricking for 3 years, I think, and doing martial arts for twice that, but why am I acting like his spokesperson?

i havnt been tricking that long, sure ive had a backtuck and fronttuck. but i didnt really trick like i do now. id say ive onlyreally been tricking for about 6 months..

also tkd for 8 years

Wow. I got my backflip on the tramp less than a year ago. It was about end of July, then I got it on the ground a little later.
I only actually started tricking a few months ago as well. Haha. Before that, the most activity I got was typing on my computer.

...Tkd for 8 years? O.o  I was in it for about a month a couple years ago and I got bored and sick of it. -_- I felt like they were trying to teach us to dance.

yea, it seems like most people can get a backtuck and not get anything else for a while. ohwell though.

yea, i should be going for my third degree blackbelt this year but i had a few setbacks. which is annoying but ohwell.

and this thred got way off subject....

Haha, weird how that happens.

I taught a kid to Cork on Thursday, but I didn't even try. :( I thought about it, but I just couldn't feel it. Why is it so easy for some people? It's not fair. -_-