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Tricking Discussion - Early 2010 Sampler - "Happiness"
Extreme Martial Arts and Martial Arts Tricking Discussion
Tricking Discussion
Early 2010 Sampler - "Happiness"
Posted by: Bengelo
03/10/2010
Posted by: Dlsso
03/10/2010
Quote:
Originally posted by Sorrowsmith 
Hmm.. what defines a good roundoff though? That question just popped in my head.
Hmm.. what defines a good roundoff though? That question just popped in my head.
The best roundoff is the one that gives you the most height coming out of it. How to get that is the real question, and it's a long and difficult one. I asked on a gymnastics forum and found like 100 things I was doing wrong with mine, and even gymnasts don't necessarily agree on the best method.
Posted by: Dlsso
03/10/2010
Quote:
Originally posted by Russell
Ben your double posting days are over.
Sorrowsmith-Do you need gymnastics training to learn tricks? No of course not. Will gymnastics training be helpful in tricking, that depends. Actual gymnastics, with there bars and vaults and stuff is pretty useless, don't sign up for gymnastics class. Tumbling, the subset of gymnastics where you do the round off backflip stuff, will inevitably prove valuable. The problem is you will spend months doing jumps, spins, and rolls before learning anything of direct use for tricking in a tumbling class. I would say your best bet would be to find someone who knows gymnastic techniques to help you with round offs, backflips, backhandsprings, and the like, this way you get the knowledge and technique without the useless filler stuff.
Ben your double posting days are over.
Sorrowsmith-Do you need gymnastics training to learn tricks? No of course not. Will gymnastics training be helpful in tricking, that depends. Actual gymnastics, with there bars and vaults and stuff is pretty useless, don't sign up for gymnastics class. Tumbling, the subset of gymnastics where you do the round off backflip stuff, will inevitably prove valuable. The problem is you will spend months doing jumps, spins, and rolls before learning anything of direct use for tricking in a tumbling class. I would say your best bet would be to find someone who knows gymnastic techniques to help you with round offs, backflips, backhandsprings, and the like, this way you get the knowledge and technique without the useless filler stuff.
A gymnast will tell you that you need those rolls and such to learn the right form for tucking etc. though, and they're right to a some extent. It's just that most trickers only care about tucking well enough to get a single front or back sault, and you don't need much for that.
Posted by: Oriyu
03/11/2010
Its true when you look at trickers most aren't that concerned about there form, but what you also have to take into account is the ammount of tricks we can learn, the tricktionary is stacked with over 260 tricks and thats not all the tricks possible. Gymnastics, well tumbling comes down to round offs, carts, back tucks x1-x3, fronts x1-x3, back fulls ect... Our moves are more diverse in nature, from kicks *martial arts*, backs *gymnastics*, flairs *breaking*, and corks a combination of all three. Its true, maybe us as trickers should spend more time perfecting our technique, but there is no one who is "perfect" in the sence that theres a standard for our tricks. Sure we have to land them, and make them look correct, but gymnastics have a whole formula for grading something as simple as a back tuck. Thats what differentiates us from gymnasts *tumblers*.
They might seem very similar but infact are quite different, so enough about gymnasts and trickers. The best thing you can do is be a tricker, and go to a gym facility lol yet that isn't mandatory. I've started basically on grass *yet im still at a 540* but thats all you really need, for more risky tricks just get a friend, as I'm sure Russell has said before.
Just take it to the grass, warm up, get a friend and progress through the moves...Don't throw a cork, if you can't do btwist, don't throw a btwist if you can't do a bkick, and don't throw a bkick if you can't kick *exept aussies =P, jks!* Once you get the basics down, harder moves won't seem as hard...Take it slow and at your own pace..
Oh and after a day of trying to do front flips, my abs KILLED!!! Its normal, tricking works a lot of different muscle groups, some you've never really worked before. It'll take awhile but it won't be as sever, just make sure you let your body recover between sessions.
They might seem very similar but infact are quite different, so enough about gymnasts and trickers. The best thing you can do is be a tricker, and go to a gym facility lol yet that isn't mandatory. I've started basically on grass *yet im still at a 540* but thats all you really need, for more risky tricks just get a friend, as I'm sure Russell has said before.
Just take it to the grass, warm up, get a friend and progress through the moves...Don't throw a cork, if you can't do btwist, don't throw a btwist if you can't do a bkick, and don't throw a bkick if you can't kick *exept aussies =P, jks!* Once you get the basics down, harder moves won't seem as hard...Take it slow and at your own pace..
Oh and after a day of trying to do front flips, my abs KILLED!!! Its normal, tricking works a lot of different muscle groups, some you've never really worked before. It'll take awhile but it won't be as sever, just make sure you let your body recover between sessions.
Posted by: Bengelo
03/11/2010
I feel like braggin; the tricktionary I've made on my computer has over 500. :D
Posted by: Oriyu
03/11/2010
Posted by: Bengelo
03/11/2010
Hahaha I would, but right now it's just a list; I'm not tech-savvy enough to figure out how to attach videos to each one and all that. Once I do though, I'll likely make my own site (NOT with forums; I'm not breaking off from the mother colony or anything, just a tricktionary). Come to think of it, I haven't worked on it for a while, and I need to add some moves like Doughnut-boys and Doughnut-boy-hyperhooks, and turtletwists, and much more. :D
Posted by: Mayhem
03/11/2010
Posted by: Bengelo
03/11/2010
Posted by: Mayhem
03/11/2010
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